Still here / BC Election 2017

bc2017Finally got around to doing the 2017 BC election as under the Dual Electoral System. Out of the 87 ridings you have the following as the top two candidates in each.

Top two

Lib / NDP

NDP / Green

Lib / Green

Lib / Ind






The following are the 11 ridings that were not Liberal / NDP as the top two candidates.

NDP / Green (7): Nelson-Creston, New Westminster, Vancouver-Mount Pleasent, Cowichan valley, Saanich North and the Islands, Victoria-Beacon Hills, Victoria-Swan Lake

Liberal / Green (2): West Vancouver-Sea to Sky, Oak Bay-Gordon Head

Liberal / Independent (2):

Peace River North elects a Liberal (Dan Davies) and Bob Fedderly.

Delta South elects a Liberal (Ian Paton) and Nicholas Wong.

I made the assumption that 80% of the Green vote would go to the NDP and the rest splits 50 / 50 where it’s the Liberal / NDP elected. The NDP vote goes Green and the Liberal goes 67% NDP and 33% Green. For the Independents they get all the NDP and Green vote the rest splits 50 / 50. The results are below.



Pop vote

Dual Seats

Dual leg votes


43 (49%)


80 (46%)



41 (47%)


83 (48%)



3 (3%)


9 (5%)



0 (0%)


2 (1%)


As stated in earlier posts, you can try it, before you buy it. The BC legislature forms the Assembly advisory council of 174 members with 2 from each riding. These being the top two candidates in each. All the other candidates transfer their votes to one of these candidates in their riding. In regular session each member has one vote. In legislative session each member has a number of votes equal to their popular vote plus any popular vote won by a candidate in their riding that got transferred to them. The advisory council in regular session advises the BC Assembly on procedural votes. The Council in legislative session advises the Assembly on whether to pass or defeat a bill up for a final vote.


Liberal versus Federalist

g3427The Liberal party of Canada you get the same old same old!

The Federalist party of Canada you get this from the party’s constitution.


The Federalist Party is based upon the principles of direct democracy of the membership. Open nominations solely by the Party membership. MP standing for Member of Parliament and not member of party. Party elections conducted by a non-partisan, independent officer and clear accountability of the leadership to the members. The general principles of National policy that the Party supports will be defined later. The recognition that there will be two parties organized the same as the Federalist party. The second being a part of the membership of the Federalist party, either on the left or right politically, that leaves and forms that second Party using the same constitution and organization.


10.0 Online voting shall be used for the elections of the National, Provincial, and Riding Assemblies and for the National Congress.

10.1 There shall be regular Assembly votes for the jurisdictions as follows. National Assembly regular votes are scheduled for the last three days of the months of February and August. Provincial Assembly regular votes are to be held on the last three days of the month of May. Riding Assembly votes are to be held on the last three days of the month of November.

10.2 The National Assembly and the National Congress in regular session by two-thirds majority votes shall pass a Federal Election by-law to govern all national and nomination elections of the Party.

10.3 Each Province by a two-thirds majority vote in their Provincial Assembly shall pass a Provincial Election by-law to govern all provincial elections in that province.

10.4 Each Riding association by a two-thirds majority vote in their Assembly shall pass Riding By-laws to govern that Association’s elections.

10.5 There shall be a Federal Election Officer (FEO). This officer shall be responsible for the conduct of all national and nomination elections and the administration of the Party’s voters list.

10.6 The Federal Election Officer is elected by a two-thirds majority vote of the National Congress in regular session with a concurring two-thirds majority vote of the National Assembly. This officer can be removed by the same vote in the Assembly and Congress. The term of office shall be for 10 years.

Kids at play

uscapitalHere they go with judicial nominations again. Not a single statesmen among the lot of them just a bunch of politicians doing what they do best in Washington DC.

As I posted earlier have 5 set days on which the nomination is brought to a confirmation vote; 20 days after, 40 days, 60 days, 90 days, and 120 days. It is automatically brought to a vote the first sitting of the Senate 60 days after the nomination. The Senate by 75 votes can bring it to a vote 20 days after the nomination, by 67 votes 40 days after, by 34 votes 90 days after, and by 50 votes delay the confirmation vote till 120 days after appointment. Super majorities can bring a nomination forward in time and minorities can delay the confirmation vote. Majorities can not suppress the minority and the minorities can not block the majority. The Senate has every right to confirm and every right to reject but no right to do this routine they do for everything now. Congress has become not just dysfunctional but almost inoperable.

I would change the vote needed to confirm judicial appointments. For the lower courts and appeal courts a 2/3 majority of those senators present and voting with at least 51 senators voting. For all Supreme court appointments an absolute 2/3 majority or 67 votes for confirmation.

A time to change

lrA time to change with real reform with two new political parties for the United States of America. As the tag line says for the Federalist party of Canada, If you want our politics to change you must first change our political parties. Based on the structure of the Federalist party of Canada and adapted for America are the Lincoln party of America and the Roosevelt party of America. I may later register domain names for these two parties and create websites as well. Much better would be some citizen of my neighbour to the south coming across this and seeing a path for America’s future in these parties.

Lincoln party of America

Roosevelt party of America


Who pays your salary?

images-duckduckgo-comWho pays your salary Mr. Trudeau? It’s that person asking the question. If a citizen and taxpayer ask you a question in a language you speak you answer them back in that language. I know you don’t need the money but that’s not the point. You are an employee and you’re attitude and actions doesn’t reflect an understanding of this. Your response to this becoming an issue was insulting. Big surprise, there’s a significant English population in the Townships. I thought you knew Quebec!

Win / Win

main_content_trump_protest_us_cities_widePersonally I don’t see the point in protests or in petitions. We each have one vote and the only REAL power and say we have is that VOTE. One might want to from time to time do those things but in the end the only place it really COUNTS is at the ballot box. I missed the first Federal and Quebec elections I was eligible for but since then I have voted in every one for 30 years.

Regrettably the USA with their electoral college is the same as Canada as a Parliamentary democracy with it’s first past the post system. A party or candidate can win the vote and yet legit another party or candidate wins the election.

Clinton won the vote but note to these protesters that Mr. Trump did get elected by the rules that determine your presidential elections. He will be sworn in as president and you do have 18 months to gear up for the mid-terms and that is where they should be focused and work towards. The only place where it really COUNTS is at the BALLOT BOX!


image10An interesting question is do the Democrats have a built-in advantage in the electoral college? I came up with the idea to recalculate the last presidential elections so that the Republican and Democratic candidates got the same vote, an exact 50/50 popular vote split. So here’s the result for 2012. I calculated to the nearest thousand votes and to 4 decimal places.

Obama 65,916,000 votes / Romney 60,934,000 votes / Equal votes for each 63,425,000

Multiple Obama’s  vote by 0.9622 / Multiple Romney’s vote by 1.0409 / Do this for their vote in each state and the District of Columbia. What happens?

The electoral votes of the states of Florida and Ohio go from Obama to Romney. The change in electoral votes for the candidates?

Obama got 332 electoral votes (62%) with a 50/50 popular vote split it’s 285  electoral votes (53%).

Romney got 206 electoral votes (38%) with a 50/50 popular vote split it’s 253 electoral votes (47%).